I can\'t get a trub cone.

moshpit

I'v done about 6 extract batches so far.Brew days go great but i have the same problem at the same time.I can't get a trub cone.I have a Morebeer 8gal heavy duty kettle with a ball valve.Yesterday i brewed Tastys Janets Brown.After i chilled,i removed the chiller and stirred the hell out of it and left it alone untill it stopped spinning thinking i would have a trub cone.I could'nt tell cause the wert is to dark to see thru.As soon as i slowly opened the ball valve it was already sucking trub in.I put a flashlight up to the tubing and you could totally see it.so i continued to transfer(like their was anything i could do about it).When i could finally see the bottom their was no cone at all.the trub was evenly flat across the bottom.Not even completely seperated,kind of mixed with wort still.My last batch was a Pliny clone and the same thing happened.Am I not stirring fast enough?I have no fittings inside my kettle and i used wirfloc.I want to put a small 90 elbow on the inside to get more wort out but this will make things worse without a trub cone.It's almost as if the hotbreak and "stuff"is to light to settle while the wort is spinning.Could this be a result of me chilling to slowly and affecting the consistancy of the hot break to settle out? I have a standard immersion chiller and takes me about 25min to chill.sorry for all the questions but i don't know anybody that homebrews.Thank You

thomscottson

How long did you let it settle?
Do you get a nice cold break?
Why are you worried about trub?

Kbar

I haven't done extract in a while, is trub an issue with extract batches?Conical Fermenter - Amber Lager
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moshpit

I guess it settled for about 20min. I think i got a good cold break. What makes a good one from a bad one?i'm not really worried about the trub,i just don't know why i can't get a cone by stirring and others can. I would able to get more wort out of my kettle with a cone. I only got 4.5gal in my fermenter and i started with 6.5gal of water. I guess i need to go to 7 gal.

Ozwald

I haven't done one in a long, long time either.  I don't remember there being really all that much to worry about.  I think it might also be a little less flocculant which may be why it won't gather up into a cone.Lee
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CHBKorea

I haven't done one in a long, long time either.  I don't remember there being really all that much to worry about.  I think it might also be a little less flocculant which may be why it won't gather up into a cone.
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   I've managed a trub cone in the pot on 1 and failed to get it on the other. I think the difference was how I added the hop pellets to the boils; the first batch I pitched the pellets in just after the smile and watched in horror as the 6 gallons of wort almost exploded out of the pot and was -oh so close- to painting my stovetop (and the ceiling?). That produced enough hop snot in the bottom of the kettle to cone up rather nicely (and perhaps a minor heart attack for me).
The second batch, I pitched the hops inside a fine mesh bag that was fished out at flameout. I still got a startling amount of hop dust in the wort, but not nearly enough to form a cone and far less than before.
If it's hard to tell, I preferred the hop additions of the second batch to the first.
I'm not sure how relevant this is to the OP, but despite what I filtered in the funnel on transfer from the second batch, I don't think it would have formed a cone no matter how long I waited or how hard I stirred.
Hope this helps...

Ozwald

You know you're a homebrewer when you own a 2nd mop just for your ceiling.Lee
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