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Experiences with Verdant IPA Yeast : Lalbrew

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Post time 2022-9-24 19:42:24 | Show all posts |Read mode
Any of you peeps use Verdant IPA yeast before? Experiences if so.
I just did my first batch with it and I'm at 90.88% Attenuation (actual Hydrometer) with a 151F Mash temp. That just sounds insane to me. I like the yeast and will definitely use it again but I'm going to have to re think my mash temps when I do. The only thing I can't remember is if I mashed in at 151 or if I mashed in around 120F and raised it with my RIMS. Regardless, I usually get attenuation over the expected / labeled percentage but I was planning on low 80's at best. I did do an overnight mash but I always do that so....  
My Gain bill was:
83% Pils
17 % Crystals
and a touch of Midnight Wheat
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Post time 2022-9-24 19:43:07 | Show all posts
Wow that is above average I'm sure!
I used it twice earlier this year it didn't attenuate anything like that for me.
One of the batches was high voltage man's wayners pale.
I just know it was stubbornly hazy on both batches I brewed with it.
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 Author| Post time 2022-9-24 19:44:01 | Show all posts
Stubbornly hazy! Dam I need to crash and biofine it tonight to free up a tank for tomorrow. It's certainly hazy still. Maybe I should just rack it over to a keg and let it sit for another week.
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Post time 2022-9-24 19:45:00 | Show all posts
Our homebrew club worked with Lallemand testing it....  Most of us got LOWER than expected attenuation - somewhat higher than English yeasts, somewhat lower than US ale yeasts. I'd be concerned - the attenuation you mention is in the Saison range.
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 Author| Post time 2022-9-24 19:45:44 | Show all posts
Interesting! The beer tastes and smells really clean.  It hit F.G. or close to it in 3 days. I sterilise my tanks with 170f starsans for an hour then let the Starsans sit in the tank overnight (this is after I disassemble and wash them with a 180f caustic for an hour). I drain it just prior to adding wort. The last yeast I've used in that tank was either a German Lager or Connan strain. Neither of those would chew through that much sugar. I guess I'll ignore the result and see what happens next time. Whatever it is, it worked really well! lol
I'm a little anal with sanitation and have never had a batch go south since I started brewing in the early 90's. My starters would be my weak link if I had to pick a suspect and this was a direct pitch of 2 packs in 6 gallons.
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Post time 2022-9-24 19:46:28 | Show all posts
I’ve never gotten that high with it. It is my favorite dry English yeast so love the flavor. @Trialben last time I used it it did clear. Got some serious conditioning first.
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Post time 2022-9-24 19:47:03 | Show all posts
Yeah I remember reading back through that thread and I didn't use any whirlflock/finnings in the boil or added anything to the fermenter so yeah with a bit of effort in the right places it should come good.
I'm pretty sure @Donoroto mentioned even his starter jar not clearing in that BFCQ - HVM thread.
I don't know why but with ales I find my process is slightly different and I don't fine them like I would if I'm brewing a lager.
For instance usually with lager  it's whirlflock 10 to go in the boil then post fermentation I let them crash longer then I'll use geltin most times now in the keg whereas ales I'm like meh if it's hazy I'm cool with that.
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Post time 2022-9-24 19:47:53 | Show all posts
I haven't busted it yet but will follow this to hear the results.
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 Author| Post time 2022-9-24 19:48:41 | Show all posts
We’ll see. I’m crashing it now and then I will transfer and fine it tomorrow. First time using biofine so I’ll make sure not to blame it if the haze is strong in this one.
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Post time 2022-9-24 19:49:36 | Show all posts
How much biofine you use ?
I'm gunna start at 10ml when I get mine and see from the results.
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