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A Few Recommendations for a Propane Burner

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Post time 2022-9-27 08:38:36 | Show all posts |Read mode
Good Morning,
I've been brewing my 5 gallon batches on my gas cookstove. Although the stove is certainly up to the task, I'd like to move this part of the operation outdoors due to the condensation/humidity from the typical 60-90 minute boil...and it'd be nice to erect some type of hoist to remove the mash as it's a PITA to wrangle the bag (BIAB) out of the kettle.
I'm doing my online research and I've been to the online brewing supply stores that I typically frequent. I see the burners, but they appear to be mostly components of a burner system and not necessarily an entire system. For example, I've been out to More Beer this morning and see that they have a "Hell Fire" Blichmann burner, but just the burner and then you order the legs separately?
My first thought was a turkey fryer, but from what I've been reading, the BTUs aren't sufficient to bring to boil and maintain the boil.
I hate making mistakes when I'm looking at $$ - $$$ for a burner.
Thanks!
Pam
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Pam
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Post time 2022-9-27 08:47:01 | Show all posts
Compare the Hellfire to the Bayou Classic SQ14.
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Post time 2022-9-27 08:55:11 | Show all posts
I have the hellfire, it's a beast. Better than any "turkey fryer" I have ever seen. You'll never need an upgrade from one.
Without the legs it's a little low but no big deal, wasn't for me anyhow. If lifting the bag is an issue at all it won't be so much any more when the pot is closer to the ground.
I stuck mine on a small 14"x14" metal plant stand on wheels so I could scoot it around the garage (i.e. closer to the door when it's time to chill, so any spilled water just runs down the driveway).
I'd sell you mine since I've sort of moved to electric but it's a heavy thing and won't be worth the shipping. I do still however highly recommend it.
Also - it's a consideration as well to move to electric if you have 240V available.
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Post time 2022-9-27 09:26:33 | Show all posts
I've have one of these. I am satisfied with its performance.
https://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-Square-Patio-Stove/dp/B0009JXYQ4
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 Author| Post time 2022-9-27 09:40:45 | Show all posts
Thanks for your opinion on the hellfire. Question - can the burner rest on any type of surface without legs or a stand such as you used? The burner itself doesn't seem to be that high and I'm curious if the bottom gets hot.
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 Author| Post time 2022-9-27 09:42:51 | Show all posts
I'm online checking that one out right now...the price is good. And, it heats quickly and can maintain a boil?
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Post time 2022-9-27 09:43:02 | Show all posts
Something like this would be ideal. Use both rings to quickly bring to the boil and then turn one ring off to maintain the boil. Amazon.com: CONCORD Roadster Burner. 13" Cast Iron Single Propane Wok Burner. Dual Controlled Burner Rings, 90,000 BTU. Outdoor Cooking, Wok Stir Frying, Countertop Burner. : Patio, Lawn & Garden
I use one of these, but I don't know if they ship to the US. It has three burners.
https://www.amazon.fr/Meva-Rechaud-TRAITEUR-robinets-Puissant/dp/B07HXPN967/ref=sr_1_6?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=2KZH6SKV3SHFU&keywords=rechaude+a+trois+bruleurs&qid=1664285703&sprefix=rechaude+a+trois+bruleurs%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-6
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Post time 2022-9-27 10:10:30 | Show all posts
Nevermind. I was speaking from a very bad memory.
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Post time 2022-9-27 10:17:27 | Show all posts
Go Hellfire (80K BTU/140 MAX BTU) vs the Bayou Classic (41K BTU). If you ever want to do larger batches, the Hellfire can keep up. I've had both, and there's no comparison, especially in colder months.
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Post time 2022-9-27 11:36:43 | Show all posts
Turkey fryers are fine depending on your batch size. They usually come with an eight gallon pot which is about the max you really want out of a burner that size. If you brew 5-6 gallon batches, it does the job just fine. It's not going to be quick to reach a boil, especially in cold months. If you brew larger batches or the speed to reach boil is important to you, then you need something with a larger burner.
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Post time 2022-9-27 12:12:36 | Show all posts
The metal I put under it gets warm but not hot. You can still touch it after an hour. The heat seems to really primarily go upwards. I would not put it on a piece of plastic, would be sketchy for wood, but certainly fine over any metal or concrete.
It's a good question. I didn't ever have an issue but it's certainly something to keep in mind.
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Post time 2022-9-27 12:47:15 | Show all posts
I had a turkey fryer type for years. It worked well for me, doing mostly 5, but some 10 gallon batches. I’m not in a hurry, so speed isn’t an issue. I’m not sure if it makes any quality difference faster versus not so fast. Someone who has used both may chime in and straighten me out. I don’t do monstrously HUGE boils. I’ve read… gentler boils/vigorous simmers are better. YMMV.
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Post time 2022-9-27 12:49:46 | Show all posts
I'd definitely get the legs with it. Easier to work with the kettle, and obviously, I wouldn't recommend using this on wood or plastic. I use it in my garage or driveway.
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Post time 2022-9-27 17:00:03 | Show all posts
fwiw, I used to run Blichmann's predecessor to the Hell Fire with the same shorty legs atop a 20" square paver and at the end of the brew session that paver would usually be very damp from condensation. Pretty much the opposite of "hot" under the burner
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Post time 2022-9-27 17:45:40 | Show all posts
I used a generic (Brinkman) "Turkey Fryer" burner for ~twenty years. No real complaints but it definitely took longer to achieve boil than the Edelmetal burner that I bought when I received a gift card a couple years ago. I still have that original one.
The new one works fine, no complaints. I personally don't want it any higher than stock legs but that's my personal preference.
I have one critique; the orifice tube that screws into the burner housing would be very easy to cross-thread if you weren't careful, and I take it out for storage to reduce the footprint so I do introduce that chance frequently.
I did also used a "Dark Star" that I got for free from NB for a short time (2 yrs). No complaints with that unit though it is nothing special, just a glorified turkey fryer. I just donated that one to my daughter when she started brewing.
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Post time 2022-9-27 18:09:53 | Show all posts

Yes you can set it on something other than the leg extention. Yes it does get hot so a wood surface might be an issue, but I have seen someone use that cement backer board or a cement stepping stone to put on top of wood.

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