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Post time 2022-10-12 13:59:05 | Show all posts |Read mode
So - after 10-11 batches the last couple of years I finally had a carbonation fail. No fizz at all. As in NOTHING.
Never gave this much thought until now b/c it has never failed before …
It was bottled around 6 weeks ago, so — ‘no patience’ shouldn’t be the issue.
My question is — has anyone experienced unexplainable fails like this before?
I have never added any extra yeast or nutrients when bottling — do any of you find this necessary to make sure the carbonation will work?
Of course, the capping itself could be the issue if it hasn’t been completely sealed, but now that it’s already opened, I guess I will never know.
One thing that bothers me though is that this batch had a lot of foaming in primary — so I actually removed a lot of the foam from the bucket during fermentation to avoid spilling - could I have removed a lot of the nutrients? Enough to cause a failure in the carbonation?
My question is more of a discussion… how often does the happen to you guys out there — do you know why it happens ? do you take any special measures to avoid a potential carbonation-fail?
/Sean
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Post time 2022-10-12 15:08:57 | Show all posts
One thing that isn't clear in your post is whether you add sugar prior to bottling or not.
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 Author| Post time 2022-10-12 15:10:35 | Show all posts
Well … that would be the simple answer if I didn’t

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… yes I add priming sugar. Typically 10-12 gr/liter…
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Post time 2022-10-12 17:40:12 | Show all posts
Was it one bottle or the whole batch? I've had the odd bottle in a batch fail to carbonate. Doesn't happen often, but when it does, I have no idea why.
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 Author| Post time 2022-10-13 02:15:31 | Show all posts
Interesting. … since the cider is so young; about 1,5 months since bottling I only opened one bottle to have a little test-taste. Usually I bottle my cider in champagne-bottles (in the case about 5 bottles) and then do 2-3 smaller beer-bottles as well, which i open to test the batch after a little while. So / I have one beer bottle of this batch left - and 5 champagne bottles. Thinking i should open them all to see if all have failed carbonation. If this is the case — anyway to re-caebonate ?
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