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Post time 2022-12-19 12:36:20 | Show all posts |Read mode
So this recipe is a little different, or at least it's different to what I've come across before. it requires a whiskey run to be done first because I use the Whiskey Backset for the Rum...
To start of with I make a 50 liter grain based whiskey mash, it's designed to bring in some Caramel, Coffee and Dark Chocolate right into the newmake, and then aged on 50/50 American Oak and Maple.
This whiskey for me comes through with a flavour profile I really like, perhaps not for everyone, but I love this, it's sweet with a lot of caramel and vanilla flavours, it has strong sweet orange kind of almost marmalade flavour with a nice raisin finish with dark chocolate staying in the mouth after.
Whiskey Ingredients:
6.5kg Inverted Sugar (Yeah, I know)
3.5kg Malted Corn (Can also use un-malted)
2kg Pale Ale Malted Barley
1.5kg Oats
0.8kg  Caraaroma Malted Barley
0.5kg  Roasted Barley
Whiskey Recipe:
1. Mill all the grains, the finer the better, but it depends on your setup.
2. Mash your grains in enough water to cover the grains at between 65°C and 68°C for an hour.
3. While the grains are converting in your mash, invert the 6.5kg of sugar in about 10 liters of water, I use about 1 tsp of citric acid to invert.
4. Tap off your wort into a fermentation bucket/drum and sparge up to about 35 Liters.
5. Add the inverted sugar, this should give you +- 50 liters at about 1.080 specific gravity.
6. Add your favorite whiskey yeast and let it ferment out dry.
The above should give you about 50 liters at roughly 10-12%.
Once done I run my whiskey wash through my pot still I get a really nice newmake out of it that has hints of coffee, dark chocolate, caramel and vanilla, most of the newmake is oaked at about 58% ABV, but it also makes an excellent base for coffee liquor etc.
Now for the Rum:
Rum Ingredients.
25kg Black Strap Molasses.
Top up the Fermenter with the backset from the Whiskey to 50 Liters.
Belgian Ale Yeast and Belgian Saison Yeast co-pitched.
Rum Recipe:
Pretty straight forward, Dissolve the molasses in the whiskey backset, adjust the PH to about 4.5-5.0, I didn't need to adjust at all, but ymmv, and pitch the yeast I use is Fermentis BE-134 for the ability to ferment dry and go pretty high ABV and Fermentis BE-256 for the banana and clove esters.
This should give you a wash of about 1.120 that should ferment out to about 10% leaving a bunch of unfermentable sugars and flavors behind.
Once done I run my Rum wash through my pot still I get a decent amount of flavour in my rum with this, banana, clove, vanilla, lots of coffee, caramel and tropical flavour.
When I blend my Rum I do cheat a little, I mix some dark Belgian Candi sugar into the portion that I age on Oak, it adds a hint of sweetness and a distinctive burnt caramel flavour.
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Post time 2022-12-19 17:54:57 | Show all posts
Is the recipe 19 or so litres of mollases and 31 litres of backset?" you can pick your nose and you can pick your friends; but you can't always wipe your friends off on your saddle" sage advice from Kinky Friedman
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 Author| Post time 2022-12-20 06:50:21 | Show all posts
Is the recipe 19 or so litres of mollases and 31 litres of backset?It's 18 liters to +- 35 liters of backset, it's just over 50 liters in total, so basically a 1:2 ratio.
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Post time 2022-12-20 07:04:22 | Show all posts
Ok thanks, I've never heard of that much backset being used in a recipe before" you can pick your nose and you can pick your friends; but you can't always wipe your friends off on your saddle" sage advice from Kinky Friedman
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 Author| Post time 2022-12-20 07:41:43 | Show all posts
Honestly neither have I, I was looking for a way to boost the flavour profile of a first run rum without having any dunder available and decided to just do something a little out of left field, and I'm quite happy with the result of both the Whiskey and the Rum.
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Post time 2022-12-20 08:52:29 | Show all posts
Sorry - a bit OT ...
if i do an expensive all malt whiskey, after each stripping run the backset smells so nice, so i add 5kgs of sugar into the backset, cool, pour over into a 25L fermenter, top up to 22L with water, add nutrients, yeast and let it rip.
I've done up to 3 of these before the smell is no longer there.
Makes for an interesting sugarhead - and saves a few bucks - Malts are freaking expensive down hereMy fekking eyes are bleeding! Installed BS Filters - better! :D
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 Author| Post time 2022-12-20 09:06:42 | Show all posts
Sorry - a bit OT ...
if i do an expensive all malt whiskey, after each stripping run the backset smells so nice, so i add 5kgs of sugar into the backset, cool, pour over into a 25L fermenter, top up to 22L with water, add nutrients, yeast and let it rip.
I've done up to 3 of these before the smell is no longer there.
Makes for an interesting sugarhead - and saves a few bucks - Malts are freaking expensive down hereSounds like a great way to get a bit more flavour into a sugarhead.
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Post time 2022-12-20 09:45:04 | Show all posts
That was sort of my point, the molly recipe is pretty much one part mollases to two parts backset with no water, never heard of a recipe with that much backset.
I thought that it would have been done before at some stage given the amount of recipes here

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Post time 2022-12-20 10:41:31 | Show all posts
Yup , you just discovered one of the beauties  of all  Mollases washes  ….. you don’t need to frig with pH.
However , you got away with using all backset from a whiskey run this time …. A fuck ton of it .
If you switch to Dunder from this run for  successive runs , you better take advise to only use 10% dunder of the  total wash volume and use water to make up difference or you will have issues .
It’s not due to pH accumulation drops as much as compounding gravity buildup as the unfermentables increase as the soup boils each run .My recommended goto .
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
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Post time 2022-12-20 10:56:35 | Show all posts
It might run ok for a first or second generation at those ratios , but there will be trouble waiting down the track.
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